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    Please watch this video an tell me whats wrong (RMP stuck at around 2,1k repost)!

    Hey, here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eunzFO6nfB4
    It is a private video and for some reason youtube fucked up the quality so if you can't see what I'm doing in this video, please tell me and i will re upload it.

    Mistakes i did:
    .) Moved out of RoF (First Clip)
    .) CS'd the DK instead of the healer (also first clip but maybe i just wanted to stop his deathgrip, idk)

    Please tell me everything what is wrong with me and my mates, but additionally here are some questions which ran into my mind while watching the video:
    .) Right Mage-Armor for the comps?
    .) Does my rogue open to early?
    .) Am i trying to CC too much? (especially in the first clip)
    .) should i rebuff intelligence if it gets purged?
    .) Should i use my deep freeze on the Healer as a CC or better at our current target to deal damage?
    .) Should my healer watch my elemental's health or not?

    I hope your guys could help me and maybe find out that my healer should dispel quicker or that my rogue gives not enough support, or that I make mistakes

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    As rmp it is so important that your opener is strong and efficient. In the first clip your rogue didn't play it right at all. You should of went with him the second he got the sap you both should have been lining up the opener (Shatter+Cheap shot/Garrote) You will have the target down to 60% as soon as your cheapshot starts and your sap is nearing 5 seconds remaining. Once your rogue starts pumping pressure along with you getting procs to spam dmg the CC after the sap could force a trinket and then a TON of defensive cooldowns.

    Btw thugcleave is a hard counter to RMP the best thing to do is all 3 players to stack on the hunter this way the hunter puts out 0 pressure and has a 1/3 chance to land a trap.

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    Thanks so far , that means that we play it right instead of the opener, doesn't we?
    However, maybe you have seen in the first clip in which I did 160k dmg and their shaman did like 600k, is there any way to improve that or is there any way to kite better than I do?
    I currently really don't know if I CC too much and I also sometimes think that my Mage armor is the wrong for a fight, would be great if you could answer all this questions.
    Thank you

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    First Clip:

    30 secs: you waste a Nova on a shelled DK.

    40-60secs

    in the wolfs are popped DG is on CD hes also got no silence up, if you layed a ring down earlier it would of alowed you to take the preassure off the priest and he could if he wanted to move in for a triple fear you could then freecast and maybe make the priest pop a trinket into a full sheep followed by a vanish sap.

    it seemed like to me around that time you was doing a whole lot of jumping and running away but not so much usefull CC, you could of impacted the priest and then into a sheep and started to convert your slight free space into some more preassure as it looked like the shaman was either going to be hit for alot or you where going to switch to the DK?

    1.18

    when you get that great sheep off on the healer he practically insta trinkets, did your Impact stun hit there after or not? this is more of a question as it seemed to hit but bug or the buff fell off?

    the only thing i would say here is you could of DF him instead and perhaps of converted the DKs preassure into an early kill.

    there's some other points in the match where your kiting but cant seem to get any space, why arnt you using frost orb to slow them to give you that bit of extra room?

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    I am going to continue watching when i get in, i may change some of my post as i am at work at the moment so i appologise of any spelling mistakes (or if i missed things in the video :P )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drixar View Post
    when you get that great sheep off on the healer he practically insta trinkets, did your Impact stun hit there after or not? this is more of a question as it seemed to hit but bug or the buff fell off?

    there's some other points in the match where your kiting but cant seem to get any space, why arnt you using frost orb to slow them to give you that bit of extra room?
    Well, I impacted him but it seems like the buff fell off while I did that
    And ofc I'm using my frostfireorb to kite (0:47) + Mirror Images to clear the enemy's focus, and I really get some space, maybe I tried to save it for burst later on or I just forgot to use it. ^^
    Anyways, thank you this thread is very informative for me and maybe for others too.

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    To be honest, the onpener in your first fight was horrible.

    1. Your rogue sapped the priest, opened with a CS on the DK and did almost 0 damage. Since you weren't there to do damage, the entire sap did nothing.

    2. Your priest then fears out of the sap. That was good, but there was no CC on the sham so the fear was tremored. If you used Deep on the sham when your priest feared, you'd have gotten probably one or two trinkets.

    3. Right as the Sham tremors, the DK uses AMS and stops ALL your damage. They both go on you, and you're defensive without really doing anything. As a result, they used 2 short CDs to counter your entire opener and force you defensive, worst of all, they used no trinkets.

    Your Rogue needs, indeed, to be more patient and wait with the sap so you can Open at the same time. Watch THIS video from Tosan on RMP openers for a VERY good example on how it's done.

    About doing damage in the long run: Try to store and save FoF proccs for when you know you can do damage. The biggest problem when doing damage is that you can't get FoF proccs when your rogue sees a burst opportunity.

    So communicate how hard you can nuke: If you get 2x FoF from using a CoC, your petnova is up, and you have a FForb, You can probably dish out 150k dmg without casting anything but Ice Lance.

    So try not to "waste" Fingers when they don't do anything.

    That's all I have for now, I'll look at it again later, when I have more time.

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